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The effect attenuates over weeks of continued dosing. One multi-center analysis of non-diabetic patients with obesity found tirzepatide associated with 64% lower odds of de novo gastroparesis diagnosis compared with semaglutide after propensity matching (human, observational). Clinical trials in the SURPASS program reported gastrointestinal adverse events as the most common side effects, with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea occurring early and often decreasing over time. No large randomized trial has established causation of pathological gastroparesis by tirzepatide; the slowing is described as a reversible pharmacological effect distinct from idiopathic or diabetic gastroparesis.","status":"active","vx_hash":"98ad113739aeca254b29d8e3198ed7750a1646153763d60294f17d045c299acc","semantic_hash":null,"version_hash":null,"version":1,"sources":[],"falsifiers":[],"tier":null,"backed":null,"transcludes":null,"chain_head":"bf0f0bdef666692d210bdcc598a2b1ad7ce5455e61b57527780658d4d0e21843","chain_length":1,"chain":[{"n":1,"op":"genesis","ts":"2026-07-17T02:43:16.307Z","actor":"owner","text_sha":"9a9d38d63f0da3a2fa1f4aac59b59789fd619fce074786c1992cb369289c2282","detail":{"divided_from":"body","block":14,"kind":"p"},"prev":"genesis","hash":"bf0f0bdef666692d210bdcc598a2b1ad7ce5455e61b57527780658d4d0e21843"}],"claim_ids":[],"last_op":{"op":"genesis","actor":"owner","ts":"2026-07-17T02:43:16.307Z"},"consolidated_into":null,"stable_url":"https://miscsubjects.com/i/div/tirzepatide-glp1-gut/d14"},{"id":"d15","kind":"p","type":null,"order":15,"text":"Animal data on gut microbiota changes exist but are separate from human motility outcomes. 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Some describe diagnoses of medication-induced gastroparesis after starting tirzepatide, while others note that the expected slowing mimics but is not the same as pathological gastroparesis. 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Direct head-to-head trials focused on patients with pre-existing gastroparesis or GLP-1 gut damage. Interaction between weight-loss benefits and gut-specific repair pathways in this population. 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